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A reminder about the two I emailed you about previously.

Gingerbread Lake definitely has NO cats.

Arlesley Lake is highly dubious. Even if there are one or two in there nobody
in their right mind would want to fish it anyway. It's been totally screwed up.
RW would turn in his grave if he could see it now!

Hi Keith,

Thinking further beyond our telephone conversation, knowing the angling press

it is quite possible that in doing a feature article on Gingerbread, Anglers Mail

'invented' the presence of cats simply to embellish the article, it makes it sound

good! I'm quite sure they didn't get information from any reliable source, such

as the club itself which would be the obvious place. I questioned two club

committee members separately, on separate occasions, and they both categorically

stated that there are definitely no cats in Gingerbread. One of those members is

well into his 60's and been a member of the club since he was a young boy. He

was adamant that in his 50 years as a club member he has never seen or heard of

a cat being encountered at Gingerbread.

Regardless of what Anglers Mail say, I know who I would rather believe!

Do you not think that under those circumstances the club committee's word

should be taken in preference to the angling press? You said yourself that your

aim is to boost the number is venues in the list as much as possible, but isn't

favouring the word of the angling press over the word of those that would know

better, just using an excuse to keep a very highly dubious venue on the list and

thereby undermining the credibility of the list? I'm sure that there are other

venues on the list that are equally as dubious as Gingerbread. Sooner or later,

people will realize that the list is unreliable, word will get round and the list

then loses ALL credibility.

Your suggestion of including a caveat to the effect that people should not take

the list as gospel and do their own research is in effect admitting that the list

is unreliable. Do you not think that quality would be better than quantity?

Regards,

Maurice

I can't see much point in that Phil, if cats were there other people besides committee members would know. Somebody
must have put them there, they would know, and as soon as one gets caught everybody would know. You can't keep
those things a secret for long, even if it's hushed up in the short term. In any case if been published in the press it
wouldn't be a secret anymore anyway! The club lake you speak of, they haven't kept that a secret for long have they,
otherwise you wouldn't know!

You know what the angling press are like, they'll print anything they think makes good reading, whether true or not.
I don't think it's a good idea to list a water as holding cats unless there is some evidence, it's misleading and devalues
the quality of the list and the book.

Were you fishing for them Phil? If so then you must have known they were there previously.
If not and you caught them accidently, did anybody else see you catch them? If not that's very lucky
but the point is that sooner or later somebody else will catch one. One way or the other the secret
will get out if it hasn'r already done so. You can't hide such things forever and probably not even for
very long so there is little point in lying about it.

The bottom line here is that whatever the truth about Gingerbread (and other dubious venues listed),
the high probability is that there are no cats. I say again, I think before a water is listed there should
be some evidence that cats definitely exist there. This certainly isn't the case with Gingerbread or some
other waters listed.

PS. The package you sent me arrived ok Phil, just what I wanted, cheers mate.